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The Trump deception

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:57
by GiHimp
F. William Engdahl dissects Trumps team, as far as it is known to the public, for what it is. The protagonists might have changed but the agenda stays the same. And at the core of it you find the "Foundation for Defense of Democracies". A den of vipers of the usual suspects.

The puppet-masters might have dropped Clinton deliberately, because here trail of undeniable criminal activities could no longer be sold to the public. The threat by Wikileaks to publish more devastating evidence of Clintons connection to bribe and corruption, nowadays coined pay for play, child abuse, child trafficking and satanism could no longer be taken at risk. Wikileaks failed to publish the announced and highly compromising videos because a DDoS attack affecting huge areas of the US happened just precisely at that time. Coincidence? I think not.

http://journal-neo.org/2016/11/25/the-d ... residency/

Re: The Trump deception

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 22:09
by Tuta
GiHimp wrote:F. William Engdahl dissects Trumps team, as far as it is known to the public, for what it is. The protagonists might have changed but the agenda stays the same. And at the core of it you find the "Foundation for Defense of Democracies". A den of vipers of the usual suspects.

The puppet-masters might have dropped Clinton deliberately, because here trail of undeniable criminal activities could no longer be sold to the public. The threat by Wikileaks to publish more devastating evidence of Clintons connection to bribe and corruption, nowadays coined pay for play, child abuse, child trafficking and satanism could no longer be taken at risk. Wikileaks failed to publish the announced and highly compromising videos because a DDoS attack affecting huge areas of the US happened just precisely at that time. Coincidence? I think not.

http://journal-neo.org/2016/11/25/the-d ... residency/
F. William Engdahl also believes that Wikileaks is a government operation.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article167733.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/hidden-int ... ents/20580

Trump was the establishment's choice all along, not Clinton, though it was camouflaged very well.

Re: The Trump deception

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 18:54
by Ochnö
1.Just do the math:
http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/jill-stei ... nal-votes/

2.
https://translate.google.com/translate? ... be-gibt%2F

3.
Throw dirt as fast as you can at a person - something will stick,even when people know that's a lie make them believe that there must be some truth in it..
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/debu ... spiracies/

4.
"She is too smart and not emotional enough for a women"...

5.
She better should have made a deal with Bernie and made him her candidate for Vice President.

Trump was the establishment's choice all along, not Clinton, though it was camouflaged very well.
yea,that's why big corp warned him about his economic planning ;)
Because they listen to other people-like these
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/01/500264332 ... y-theories

Re: The Trump deception

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:10
by xg27
In a deceptive world there are plenty of deceptions to talk about. And apparently they are talked about.



But, why don't we ever talk about the China deception?

Re: The Trump deception

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:17
by GiHimp
xg27 wrote:In a deceptive world there are plenty of deceptions to talk about. And apparently they are talked about.



But, why don't we ever talk about the China deception?

If you ever been to China for a considerable time and if you know to read and write Chinese, we talk.

Re: The Trump deception

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:13
by xg27
Ok. Let me rephrase it.

I can't help the impression - also from what You've said in the german forum - that Your message is:


"The West is bad, bad, bad and China is good, better, best; and we all should submit to China and live happily ever after."



I don't buy into that. (Geo)politics is not a black & white movie. E.g. imho the Right Wing may have a point or two but the far-right is definitely not the solution as we should know; especially here in Europe. The same applies to the Left.

Re: The Trump deception

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:07
by GiHimp
xg27 wrote:Ok. Let me rephrase it.
No, if that is your impression and maybe of other readers too, than I failed. My intention is not to hyping Chinas system. There are enough flaws, and you can take that to the bank.

What I try to do is to point out that our fragile democracy in the West is in dangerous waters, whereas China doesn't have that problem, because it isn't a democracy in the first place.

It's far better to cope with a system that clearly states what it is, than a system that pretends to be something that it isn't, or isn't anymore.

As I see it, western so called democracies are close to get flipped into a fascist dictatorship with an Orwellian ministry of truth (if its not happened already).

The situation for me is that I feel more free here than in Europe without avoiding a shallow judgment. I know, because I know both sides of the medal long enough.

That's why I kindly asked you if you know anything about China first hand which implies to have been there for a considerable time preferable in different places, and if possible understand the language. One of my rules is: Don't have a profound opinion on something without first hand knowledge.

From your answer I draw the conclusion that you either never been to China or you do not understand the language, or both. Assuming that I'm positive, I prefer not to debate the subject China.

And another thing worth mentioning. I am not your enemy. I am a victim like everybody else. And I do not worship any kind of political system, work for any governmental agency or succumb to anything or anybody trying to curtail my God given rights to live in peace. I thrive for freedom for me, my family and when possible for the rest of us.

My resistance to the warmongers and slave drivers and bloodline aristocracy is in the form of alternative thoughts and concepts. My voice is my violence. It comes from such places as China’s Academy of Social Sciences, from several Russian, and so far not infested American institutions and bright writers from all over the world as well as from numerous media outlets which have taken up the cause of freedom.

In conclusion, I hope, I made my point clear.

Re: The Trump deception

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:37
by xg27
Thanks for Your reply; I appreciate the quality of it. And, no offense meant. It's just that....spectacular talk tends to distort content. I get this every now and then myself, too. In fact, we may be a lot more alike and in agreement than meets the eye.


I am a victim like everybody else.
Here is where our views differ. We are not victims; we ourselves cause all the shit that goes down and we cause it for the (short term) benefit of it. And then, when the consequences strike we blame others* for it. And by refusing to admit our own responsibility we effectively deprive ourselves of any chance to rectify.



We are in the absurd situation of shoveling away the debris of the avalanche we have caused ourselves and causing two more while shoveling. One proven way to do this is having slaves do the shoveling for us as uprising slaves will constitute the next avalanche. Also, we run out of places where to shovel all the debris to; yet another avalanche. And running out of resources to build shovels from is one more avalanche of it's own.





*very often we blame exactly those who we generously pay to do precisely what they are doing. As deceptions go, this is the real McCoy.

Re: The Trump deception

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:13
by JotaPm
Mr Tump deception to everyone:
The GOP tax plan got a triple whammy of brutal reviews
In the forex market calendar today we all met about:
Three new analyses of the Senate's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act all delivered bad news for Republican leaders.
The Tax Policy Center found that more than 50% of Americans would see a tax increase in 2027 under the bill.
Only one out of 42 economists surveyed by the University of Chicago's Booth School of Business said the bill would increase economic growth substantially.
The Penn-Wharton Budget Model found that the bill would blow a hole in the federal deficit.

Re: The Trump deception

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