Good post...but I think you are misunderstanding a few things.

Whether a website advertizes that a SOCKS5 proxy can anonymize Skype is not the point; people assume that the proxy settings can be used to bypass censorship and their IP, which is very inaccurate; it cannot.

I do not use BitTorrent at all--neither with JonDonym nor Tor; I was merely performing tests and using a network analyzer.

JohnHenry's comments about VPNs were not about providing secure communications in public networks, which they do very well; obviously I cannot expect you to understand the context of a post that you never read...

VPNs can be made anonymous very easily...if one desired to without chaining or so called multihops.

I think there needs to be studies to determine how well SOCKS5 handles UDP; I am somewhat suspect for now...though I have to look into this more.

VoIP would only be truly encrypted if, yes, end users controlled the encryption keys but alas! Skype, which is a closed source app, will never allow this!

VoIP needs to be akin to OpenPGP for true end-to-end encryption...the Zfone Project is going nowhere.

Technology is limited in the sense that there are too many constraints...this is a loaded sentence and one which I neither have the time nor desire to go into.

That is correct. The problem is, that people Google, find forum threads, which are years old and believe them, as many people say the same. And also the new knowledge "socks is mainly for connectivity, not anonymity, beware of protocol leaks" spreads very slowly, if at all.

Who of the forum guys wants to admit, that he had spread false knowledge for years. I think people do not want to accept, that it is so complicated.

People should read the manual and the website, not Google and forum, then they were safer. If they ask in a forum, like here, listen to the developers, who said that Skype can not be anonymized with JonDo.

People listening to the wrong sources is rather a problem with the average intelligence of humans, not socks5.

I don't believe that activating local redirection (very similar to VPN) instant of socks5 by default for everything would lead into less problems. It introduces new problems. Most people are not so bright. I mean, they installed Tor button and logged into facebook with their real name. Still questions?


When you care to link it, you can assume me to read it.


There are different levels of anonymity. VPN protects against passive logging of the website. It doesn't change the circuit every few minutes etc.


I am also working on UDP over socks5. One main problem is, to find applications who (even) (and correctly) use UDP over socks5.


ZRTP is now the encryption standard for ZRTP. https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6189

Even Zimmerman, the founder of pgp, itself said, said that pgp is not suitable for voip. I newer saw someone beside you, considering pgp for voip. Forget about the zfone project. Zfone is not ZRTP. Unfortunately, the zfone website does not get updated anymore.

ZRTP works well. There are voip clients with ZRTP support available for Windows, Linux, Android, perhaps others (didn't check). ZRTP is way easier to use than pgp, I suspect that after voip is more widespread and after advertising it, more people will use ZRTP than pgp.

Check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compariso ... P_software and search for ZRTP.

What's wrong with ZRTP?

You and I are referring to two different things. The issue is not static IP vs dynamic IP or even website logging or VPN logging. I speak of absolute anonymity.



You are a funny man. I'm laughing as I write this. First, I did not write that PGP should be used for VoIP encryption; I wrote that it should be "akin," which means similar or related, as in the concept of end-to-end encryption.

Second, Zfone is all but dead and therefore "is going to nowhere." I'm aware of the server problems of Zfone, updates, and what not.



I never mentioned ZRTP in my post, so I never wrote that there was something wrong with it or that I oppose it; all I wrote was that Zfone was going nowhere.

Don't put words in my mouth...

By the way Skype can be anonymized with JonDonym...but with caveats. It is like when you do the JonDonym IP test...you will see the anonymized IP, a different country flag, with the leak that exposes the real IP.